daedala: line drawing of a picture of a bicycle by the awesome Vom Marlowe (Default)
Daedala ([personal profile] daedala) wrote in [community profile] lifting_heavy_things2011-02-05 03:35 pm

NROL4W Stage 1

We're on the third week of the first stage of New Rules of Lifting for Women. My sister has dropped out for a bit due to a car accident (she's ok, and she'll start up again when her doctor gives the ok), but my partner and I are still doing it. It's really helpful to have him working out with me -- I haven't put the workout off a day or anything yet.

The first stage of workouts for the book is set up so that the reps decrease: 15 reps in the first week down to 8 reps in the eighth week. This makes it a good way to ease in -- starting with body weight wasn't completely ridiculous, with fifteen reps -- and it's really nice to be able to increase the weight faster because the reps are going down. I've decided that this is very clever psychology on their part. :)

The most important realization I've come to is that I'm not a personal trainer and I don't want to be a personal trainer, even for myself. I like doing the program, getting it done, and knowing it will work. I'd had a fairly regular practice going until I was injured (not lifting) in 2007, and then could never get very far when I tried to restart, and I think it's because it basically wasn't fun to figure it out myself. The whole geek "I can figure it out myself!" is definitely a part of my identity, so it's been weird to let that go. On the other hand, Practical Programming is worth a fair bit used on Amazon, so that's a win!

So far, this workout is fun.
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-06 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I started with first week, first work-out today.

The bar bell squats are scary. I used the empty bar and it was a wobbly affair, plus the bar wants to lie on the knobby end of my spine, and grabbing hold of something so far back with my hands strains my shoulders. It strains them both equally, so at least it's not the bad shoulder acting up, but, ouch. I also did not go down far enough because of the wobbly. And the bar wasn't even heavy.

You said you are doing this with dumbbells? How?

Seated rows were fine (I used 20 kg for starters), thogh I had to improvise some things that I would not want my workplace saftety guy to know of.

Step-ups: Used 2*3 kg just to remind myself that something was there. Couldn't quite convince the trailing leg on the step-ups that it ought to be trailing.

Used the Smith machine for the push-ups, hight 95 cm. Keeping my elbows close to my ribs does strange things to my wrists, so I let them go outwards a little more.

Prone jackknifes on the Swiss ball are a very fun exercise.

I did not have a clock in sight and needed to do a lot of arranging stuff, so the rest periods were all over the place.

I guess I'll do some extra workouts to get into the forms. All in all it was quite short and I felt that I was not doing enough. I added some back hyperextensions because my lower back likes them a lot. However, when I was doing some handstands and intervall running afterwards I noticed that I had done serious work.

All in all, not too bad a start.
rydra_wong: 19th-C strongwoman and trapeze artist Charmion flexes her biceps while wearing a marvellous feathery hat (strength -- strongwoman)

[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-02-06 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the prone jackknives. But they are hard! I'd rather do them than the swiss ball crunches, which are boring.

Have you seen "New Rules of Lifting for Abs" (which is in fact about core strength of all kinds) yet? It is a crunch-free zone! They've come down on the side of the research that suggests that crunches of any kind are more trouble than they're worth. \o/ \o/ \o/

lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
The empty bar can be something like 45 lbs, so that's still a fair bit to balance high on your back.

I don't think it is... I'm going to drag the scales from the treadmill room to the weight room when no one is looking, an find out.

In the meantime, I'll probably better practise with a broom at home and use the dumbbells in the gym. Though grip strength is an issue... maybe less of one when I hold them at shoulder height as I have my palms *under* the dumbbells. I hope.

Steps: I've been using the 10" step from under the push-up bar. Ideal, in theory. It's just that naturally, when climbing stair, I push instead of pulling. Practise, again. I might do the additional round of stage one until I have learned the movements.

Prone jackknives: I'm finding new and entertaining ways to fall off the Swiss ball. *g*
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-07 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
15 lbs sounds about right. I can handle it while thinking about something else, if I could do that with an olympic bar I'd be Arnold ;-)

Getting on the ball: I do this like flat diving into a pool. Put my chest on it, arms forwards, roll until I can get my hands on the floor on the other side, then roll further forward into right position, while finding the initial balance.

Step: For now, 10" is plenty for me. Especially to get out of the habit of pushing. :-S
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-08 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry if I'm becoming a pest re-replying, but I don't feel like opening a new one.

Did workout stage 1, 1B, despite still having sore legs from the squats in 1A.
Weighed the bar, it's 20 kg. Did deadlifts with the empty bar.
Shoulder presses: Barely managed 2*4 kg.
Lounges: I kind of jump back into original position there... that can't be correct form, can it?
Lat pulldowns: fun.
Swiss ball crunches: Boring. Did 15 because I forgot that I was supposed to do only eight, and with hands stretched out over my head. I'm going to use a weight next time. And a smaller ball.

These workouts are really short. My warm-up before and stretching after takes longer than the workouts.
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-09 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know of a vid of the lunges? I kind of fall forwards into the lunge and then have my center of gravity in a place where I need to either shuffle or push off real hard (which ends up becoming a jump) to get back to standing. It's not that there is not enough work done (my muscles are telling me) but it looks as if I am practising modern dance. With dumbbells *g*.
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-13 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yepp, too long steps. Got better today.

Do you read the lunges as "two set of fifteen *per leg*" (i.e., 60 total) or "two sets of fiften with alternating legs" (i.e., 30)?

Sixty is hard even at bodyweight, thirty feels more in line with the endurance requirement of the rest of the workout.



lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-13 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, makes sense. Ouch, sixty :-S

I did Stage 2, workout 2B today. Slowly I'm getting the weights to where I want them -- I did what was recommended and started really light.

At the moment I really want to make use of the fact that I have free time every evening but Wednesday, so I go to the gym three times a week. As soon as everyone has recovered from their colds, I'll be down to Thu, Sat and Sun again.
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-13 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
May I ask why both Saturday and Sunday?

I expressed that badly -- Thu, Sat and Sun will be the days where I *can* go to the gym. So because of the "not two days in a row" (I *couldn't* do two days in a row at the moment!) I'll manage only two times a week, not three. Which is a little annoying because I had been getting into a nice rhythm and I feel that I'm seeing progress.

About dumbbells at shoulder level: I tried that and got back to the barbell. The issue was less grip strength (having the palm of my hand under the dumbbells helped), but I didn't get the balance right and had to pay too much attention to what my arms were doing.


lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-10 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Stage 1, workout 2A today.

Squats with empty 20kg bar went OK -- could go down a good way without overbalancing or bending my back the wrong way. Still, the knobby top of my spine is not safely out of the way. Ouch.
Push-ups against 90 cm height.
Seated rows with 25 kg, that was a good weight. I need to think about a better arrangement of whatever to brace my legs aginst, though -- it came toppling down *g*.
Step-ups again with 2*4 kg. Less pushing off with the trailing leg today, better form overall.
Prone jackknives still fun, and did not fall off the ball this time.

Finished with stretching and three handstands against the wall, just for fun.

[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<user="daedala">') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

Stage 1, workout 2A today.

Squats with empty 20kg bar went OK -- could go down a good way without overbalancing or bending my back the wrong way. Still, the knobby top of my spine is not safely out of the way. Ouch.
Push-ups against 90 cm height.
Seated rows with 25 kg, that was a good weight. I need to think about a better arrangement of whatever to brace my legs aginst, though -- it came toppling down *g*.
Step-ups again with 2*4 kg. Less pushing off with the trailing leg today, better form overall.
Prone jackknives still fun, and did not fall off the ball this time.

Finished with stretching and three handstands against the wall, just for fun.

<user="daedala">, are you doing the nutrition plan from the book also?
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
oh dang, sorry for the coding mess. How do you say "user" in DW?
lyorn: (Default)

[personal profile] lyorn 2011-02-11 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I've finally given in and got protein supplements. Without, I can't even make the 0.8g per kg that conservative nutrition sites are recommending. I feel silly having that stuff in the kitchen. *g*.