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commodorified ([personal profile] commodorified) wrote in [community profile] lifting_heavy_things2016-02-19 04:10 pm


What if I were a 46 year old woman who is both active (bikes, swimming, hiking, snowshoeing) AND somewhat disabled/in chronic pain (scoliosis and a dodgy shoulder at the top of my back and hyperflexibility/sciatica/bursitis at the bottom) AND I'd tried doing weights (machines, largely, due to a horrid fear of breaking myself through incompetence if I tried free weights except for curls) and then got bored and stopped doing it ...

And I suddenly decided that I wanted to be able to pick up my own weight (190, +/-) and hold it over my head and put it down again?

Where would I start? Should I start? Is there some other goal I should consider first or instead? What kind of time/money/energy commitment am I looking at here?

My local community centre has a good weight room and my favourite trainer in the world works there and I can afford to buy some time with her. So there's that.
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[personal profile] resolute 2016-02-19 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes yes yes YES you should try!

But I would *strongly* recommend talking to a good PT and devising a plan that will not totally fuck you over.

I mean, I can say Deadlifts, Squats, Farmer's Carry, and Shoulder Presses are the way to go -- but I don't know a damn thing about the particularities of your anatomy, its strengths and weaknesses. *Nor does any damn strength training program!*

And, speaking as an enthusiastic strength-training fan who has fucked her wrists and elbows, possibly permanently, though scrupulously following books and videos without talking to my doctor, well ....

.... learn from my mistakes, maybe?

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[personal profile] resolute 2016-02-19 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2016-02-20 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
FWIW, I've had that basic problem in the past (multiple physical issues that could be exacerbated with lifting) minus access to a trainer, and have previously managed to increase my strength substantially just by taking it slow and if something causes the bad sort of pain, not doing it again. I haven't ever been able to lift my own body weight over my head, but I probably could get there if I didn't keep getting interrupted by injury/illness/life stuff/failure to work out consistently.
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[personal profile] lyorn 2016-02-20 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you should start. Probably with talking to a doctor who is used to athlethes not being *entirely* reasonable, who could recommend how to best go about it (support, PT, ...)

And then to a trainer who knows how to deal with your issues, and who can teach you to work up to the heavy lifts in perfect form.

I'd expect three times a week about 45 to 60 minutes, including warm-up. But I'd also expect you'd be doing that for years to get your body weight overhead, but not time like the present to start.

After 3 useless years on the machines, it took me about 6 workouts given by a PT to regain the mobility in my back that 14 years of chronic pain and being very careful had lost me, and about 20 workouts to become pain-free. After half a year I started a full free-weight-programm, and except for one case of badly done crunches, my back only complains when I skip training too often. So I totally belive in miracle cures!

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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2016-02-23 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
but I feel this article from The Toast about a related goal may be inspirational:

“So You Want to Pick Up and Lift a Man Overhead”: A Fitness Roundtable

I can't recall if you are into Marvel, but someone in the comments has helpful contributed a list of the canonical weights of various Marvel characters to use as goals.