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panda ([personal profile] panda) wrote in [community profile] lifting_heavy_things2011-08-27 09:09 pm

newbie

Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'd like to ask for your help. Today (with thanks to [personal profile] resolute for the invite ♥) I joined http://www.fitocracy.com and the prospect of getting gold stars earning points and leveling up was enough to inspire me to actually start a strength training routine.

I have never done strength training before. At some point I saw someone over at [community profile] exercise_every_day recommend http://www.stumptuous.com/, so I wandered through their dork to diva section learning about proper form for various exercises, before picking a couple I felt comfortable doing with the equipment I have.

My equipment and the exercises I picked behind the cut:

I have:
-hand weights, 3.5 lbs each
-a yoga mat
-my body weight
-food cans, 2 liter bottles and other assorted things that could be used as improvised weights

what I do not have:
-any kind of bench

As for what I did- I've been told you should do reps of a lift until you can no longer maintain proper form, so that's what I tried to do, keep repeating the lift until I felt like my form was going to deteriorate.

I did:
-3 planks, held for 30 seconds each (which was really pushing my limits)

-dumbbell squats, 2 sets of 5 reps (this also pushed my limits, and despite stumptuous' directions, I still felt iffy on my form- if anyone has recommendations for a how to for the complete beginner, that would be great)

-standing dumbbell shoulder press, 2 sets of 10 reps (I could maybe have done more?)

-standing dumbbell bicep curl, 2 sets of 10 reps (maybe could have done more, maybe not)

What do you guys think? Any advice? Are there any other exercises I should be doing with the equipment I have? Thanks in advance!
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Re: \o/ Welcome newbie! *g*

[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-08-30 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
right now I don't think I know enough to yet have any idea what realistic goals would be, so my current goal is just 'be able to do more reps than I used to'

That is an excellent goal! Though once your reps hit a certain point (usually around 12), with most weighted exercises, you may want to modify your goal to 'be able to do the exercise with more weight'.

To be honest, that's mostly as specific as my goals get in that respect, with the odd foray into 'be able to do this exercise that looks really cool' and 'be able to lift X amount of weight because it would make me feel really cool' *g*.

I was wondering more whether there were any secondary goals like 'fix my backache' or 'get stronger for such-and-such sport' to take into account.
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Re: \o/ Welcome newbie! *g*

[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-09-08 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
When do you move up to more weight?

It depends on the exercise and your goals.

As a very rough rule of thumb, if you're maxing out at 1-5 reps, that's training pure power and neural adaptation. If you're in the 15-20 range, you're training pure endurance (which can sometimes be a good thing, for example if you're rehabbing/prehabbing stabilizing muscles, like the ones in the rotator cuff, or your back, or if you want to perfect your form on a tricky exercise).

8-12 reps is usually suggested as a good default range to aim for with most things, where you'll definitely get strength improvements and some muscle growth (depending on how easily your body builds muscle).

I can do Standing Dumbbell Shoulder Press and Dumbbell Squats in sets of 12 reps with my current weights (3.5 lbs), but that's pushing me to almost failure.

Yeah, I'd suggest that if you're failing at 12, it's probably time to try raising the weight.

Is it okay to move up to a heavier weight if I'll only be able to do like 5 or so reps with it to start?

If you don't have an intermediate weight (where you could, say, get 8 reps before failing), one option is "drop sets", which I resort to quite a lot. So, you do a set with your heavier weight, even if you only get 5 reps. Then you drop to the lighter weight, and do two more sets of 12. So you're hitting both ranges.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2011-09-09 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This feels like a stupid question but, when I use them, this means they count as 8 lb weights, right?

Yep, you always count the bar (especially with barbells, where the bar can weigh a lot all by itself).

Me, the font of endless questions X3

As you may have noticed, I love questions like this because I can geek out about an enthusiasm of mine. And I'm sure I'm not the only one in the comm who feels that way. So ask away!

if I should be aiming for 8-12 reps, how many sets should I be aiming for?

Again, rule of thumb, but 3. There's been some to-ing and fro-ing in the research about whether one set might be just as effective, but IIRC it was coming down on the side of "3 is better, though you can still get significant improvements from one set".

Also any advice for "I pushed myself really hard yesterday and today my quads are killing me"?

Hot bath with Epsom salts in, a warming massage oil/salve/rub (Lush and Neal's Yard do good ones), and avoiding stairs. *g*